mobGriefing in Survival

+1

-1. If mobGriefing is enabled then sv would be annoying as hell to play. Especially tsv.

+1 if creeper and endermen griefs are disabled

-1 if its just mobGriefing enabled

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Why is “enderman can pick up and place blocks” in both ad/dis advantages

@Doomblah, you can create fully automatic block transport (without items) with endermen, and at the same time, endermen create tiny grief.

@FullyStealth, look at the advantages/disadvantages more closely, and look at the “suggestions for mobGriefing=true” section.

Count: ==6:4==

First number: supports Second number: disagreements

endermen create tiny grief.

greif is greif, 1 block or hundreds.

Also how the hell do you make an auto enderman bock moving anything? you cant possibly control them like that

@Doomblah, lol it’s something really technical, but it is possible in survival (extremely resource intensive though)

Also, grief is the act of angering other players through vandalism, and endermen are AIs, and not players. It it not grief, but rather, it is an inconvenience.

greif could also be defined as unwanted damage to your base or creations, which a creeper/enderman certainly does. also wtf show me how u make auto enderman block movers

None of this “could be” its not. Grief is player to player end of. The game is made to have mobs in that do certain things, you can’t label them as something negative as they are purely the games mechanics

I’m with @PanFritz on this one. However there are still some mechanics that are unwanted at times, so really the only discussion we should be having is whether we want endedman damage or not. I think we need more input from the survival community before making that decision though.

I own a server, and I’ve looked through the configuration with WorldGuard (blargh I don’t use it anymore; I say screw WG, it’s not for me), and it is possible to disable endermen grief (as defined by the configuration in WG) in the config. So, endermen grief should not affect the mobGriefing choice.

+1

hmm, that is true. We can use a worldguard flag on the global map to disable griefing by endermen (which is one of the most useless features of minecraft imo).

7 supports, 4 opposing

we could use hermitcraft’s enderman commandblock/plugin thingy, and also, disabling explosions :D +999999 -999991

      +1

also @Doomblah, tango tek’s endertech mod :D

Endertek mod

C2L its not that easy… You see, for mods to work on a server like this, requires EVERYONE to download it. Not many will like it.

We can just block enderman griefing with worldguard flags -.- you don’t have to focus on the technical side of things peeps!

8 supports, 4 opposing

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9 supports, 4 opposing

oh dear, fully, its not a mod, its a commandblock (the Endertek mod was just a joke) BUUUUUT if we use commandblocks, it does require a clock so . . . yea

C2L why the hell would you make Endermen move bases for you anyways .-.

I just counted: ==+8:6-== (including those who said +1 ONLY IF )

Additionally just to pick up what was mentioned here:

Fully:

C2L its not that easy… You see, for mods to work on a server like this, requires EVERYONE to download it. Not many will like it.

Changing mob behavious is serverside. Noone would need to download anything. Yet modding the spigot.jar file is not what we want. Nope, nope, nope!

Using commandblocks or even plugins that check every tick for creepers and then change gamerules is just ridiculous. There’s better ways anyways using mv for example. Pretty much to TheWildDefender and C2L :P

We could utilize the mob griefing properties of some entities Enderman can pick up blocks

-> Why is that two different points? Shouldn’t that be just the first and toss out the 2nd? And by that I think you mean stuff like Automated wither cobble farms or what? Well I already hear the tears when your wither suddenly is gone because of /stoplag or because someone found a nicely encased wither and decided to grab a free nether star.

Additionally you forgot:

Enderman can pick up blocks out of your redstone contraption, set off your remote controlled wheat farm which destroys all of the weed because it despawns before you could clean out the storage chests, then all of your animals will fall into the waterstream of the farm and die, as well as for some reason taking all your diamonds with them.

^ That’s about the complaints I expect from this. From me? Definite ==NO==.

Updated count:

==+8:7-== including all staff that voted on the - side and a few who are giving a ONLY IF +1. So what about rounding it to ==+5:7-==?

Greetings

Pcpich

Very accurate estimation by pepich: 8:7 ~ 5:7

Anyways, I see the supporters point of mobGriefing as a game mechanic, but I would rather not have this as it will also add additional lag to the server, aaaand a downside for staff is you can’t bomb me with twenty creepers again cough PJ, unless you intend on demolishing my base for no reason.

Unfortunately L0rd can stil shoot firballs at me. ;-;

==To PJ==: then who the hell bombed me in tsv ._.

@FullyStealth I never did anything with creepers xD